Prisoner Abuse

November 21, 2005

Tell me if the bosses can spell hypocrisy.
Bush and Cheney would be clowns…except they’re too scary for that.

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George Kelly

September 20, 2024, 6:03 pm

Isn't it rich? Aren't they a pair?
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FrankM

September 20, 2024, 6:04 pm

Bush and Cheney are currently the most evil men on the planet. Period. No one else comes close at this time. They need to be removed from public office and from society. They need to placed in a very dark hole some where in Antartica and forgotten. End of discussion. Hard to come behind that one, but I welcome attempts to do so.
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FrankM

September 20, 2024, 6:05 pm

Bush and Cheney are currently the most evil men on the planet. Period. No one else comes close at this time. They need to be removed from public office and from society. They need to placed in a very dark hole some where in Antartica and forgotten. End of discussion. Hard to come behind that one, but I welcome attempts to do so.
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Kirk

September 20, 2024, 6:06 pm

To think that torture, abuse, and lying to hide it are somehow unique to the Bush Administration is not only naive, but absurd. The mistake they made that separates them from their predecessors is that they didn't hide it as well. Torture is a given in pretty much every armed conflict, on every side, despite what some would have you believe about the Geneva Convention. After all, it's only illegal if you get caught, right? That's not to say that torture is ok or justifiable in any way. However, framing the issue as being specific to a particular leader or period in time does nothing but obscure the issue. And that, ultimately, achieves nothing. Because if people buy into the erroneous belief that this is a Bush Administration issue, it's that much easier for the next Administration (Democrat or Republican) to do exactly the same thing once he's gone in a couple years. Should the Administration be held accountable? Sure. Will they be kicked out? No. Will anything else substantial actually happen to them? Of course not. Did Bush and Cheney invent and perfect the use of torture? Get a grip.
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Kirk

September 20, 2024, 6:07 pm

To think that torture, abuse, and lying to hide it are somehow unique to the Bush Administration is not only naive, but absurd. The mistake they made that separates them from their predecessors is that they didn't hide it as well. Torture is a given in pretty much every armed conflict, on every side, despite what some would have you believe about the Geneva Convention. After all, it's only illegal if you get caught, right? That's not to say that torture is ok or justifiable in any way. However, framing the issue as being specific to a particular leader or period in time does nothing but obscure the issue. And that, ultimately, achieves nothing. Because if people buy into the erroneous belief that this is a Bush Administration issue, it's that much easier for the next Administration (Democrat or Republican) to do exactly the same thing once he's gone in a couple years. Should the Administration be held accountable? Sure. Will they be kicked out? No. Will anything else substantial actually happen to them? Of course not. Did Bush and Cheney invent and perfect the use of torture? Get a grip.
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The Crafty Veteran

September 20, 2024, 6:08 pm

As bad as the situation is now, what really worries me is when a changeover in leadership happens? In my mind, with the political leadership on both sides being very weak, it is going to be a 50/50 toss up whether the situation gets better or worse. A coin flip to decide our future is not a pleasant thought.
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The Crafty Veteran

September 20, 2024, 6:09 pm

As bad as the situation is now, what really worries me is when a changeover in leadership happens? In my mind, with the political leadership on both sides being very weak, it is going to be a 50/50 toss up whether the situation gets better or worse. A coin flip to decide our future is not a pleasant thought.
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Mack H. Jones

September 20, 2024, 6:10 pm

Kirk is right Bush and Chaney did not invent torture but their regime has clearly taken it to a further extreme than any of their predecessors. The Third Reich was not the first regime of its kind but Hitler took the madness to a different level. Ergo Bush and Chaney and their apologists.