St. Louis Police Whoop Suspect's Ass

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  Kirk

  November 26, 2024, 10:28 pm

  Seems like reporters usually mention the rap sheet thing to hide the fact that they don't know anything about him and don't have shit else to say. But yeah, that looks like he may have gotten beat a bit too hard. The cop in black trying to shatter his ankle then chilling out when he saw a camera is the most damning thing in there. There'll be some lawsuits and some firings, probably in pretty short order.
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  jaedalaurez

  November 26, 2024, 10:29 pm

  You are a master of understatement, Kirk lol. They were not "subduing" a damn thing- they were whupping his ass. Hell, the first 3 were ON him, and then dude runs up and starts stomping his ankle and grabbing his leg? Yeah. That stomping move that dude was doing was straight off the playground when your crew jumps somebody. And the fact that he got that "oh s***t" body language happening when he noticed the camera...yeah. If that camera HADN'T been noticed, they'd have beat his ass till yonder come Jesus. And the "lengthy arrest record" is a sneaky way to say ".....maybe...he deserved it?...... a little?" without actually saying it.
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  Elizabeth

  November 26, 2024, 10:30 pm

  they'd have beat his ass till yonder come Jesus. OH SWEET JESUS, THAT'S FUNNY! Police beating black men? Does it ever get old to them?
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  Clarence

  November 26, 2024, 10:31 pm

  Nope it never gets old. There are enough people who enjoy a semi-legal opportunity to beat black men to give police a bad name for eternity. Too bad that bad name gets extended to good cops. Such is life.
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  Strong

  November 26, 2024, 10:32 pm

  No mention of Coretta Scott King's passing today? I'm somewhat conflicted on what I think about Coretta. I'd prefer to work that out in my head instead of on the site.
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  eauhellzgnaw

  November 26, 2024, 10:33 pm

  Police force is ONLY justified when the suspect poses a reasonable threat. Once he is on the ground and subdued by cops, it's over. Everything after that is brutality. Few things draw police ire like a high speed chase (it's probably second only to assaulting an officer), and the suspect who makes them chase him will often catch wreck. I can understand an officer being upset, but they are trained to handle such situations. Armed agents of the state are not supposed to lose their cool like this. I just have two more observations: first, this case is fundamentally different from the one from last month (in which the suspect was wielding a knife and the cops swiss cheesed him). Yet, some would lump them in the same category simply because the suspects were both black, and most of the cops were white; second, most of those who consider themselves "tough on crime" are perfectly fine with punitive police violence in this situation (and in that of Rodney King, the most famous police punching bag) because of the combination of the suspects' blackness and their criminal activity (past and present). Neither blackness/non-whiteness nor criminality is sufficient, but both are necessary.
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  kobie

  November 26, 2024, 10:34 pm

  eauhellzgnaw, your username is very appropriate. indeed, "oh hell no!" is often my sentiment after reading your posts. you sound young, so you still have the chance to join up to be a witness for right and truth, but you're letting yourself be fouled up. here's some words of inspiration from mr. ralph ellison (not some goddamn hollywood movie!): you seem to want to be with those cops who turn coward before their strongest human need and then say, "look here, i'm brave." it makes me laugh because few are brave enough and free enough to be for right and truth above all other foolishness. there wasn't a single man in a cop uniform in either case discussed here who was brave enough and free enough simply not to beat the one man, or kill the other. but you would add your own virtual beating on top of the cops. perhaps not so much in this case, but certainly in the one "from last month" as you say. (the fact that we're talking about black people being brutalized and murdered by cops on a MONTHLY BASIS - knowing full well that it goes on more often than even this - seems "sufficient" to "lump them in the same category," again, as you say.) i don't mean to say that you have to defend the beaten and/or "swiss cheesed" black men. i don't mean to excuse their so-called "rap sheets." i don't mean to have you take up the cause of justice (gasp!), but just say to your cop friends, "listen, we can no longer give one group of men the license to beat, maim, and kill another group without punishment, without opening ourselves up to being victims. that means all of us. why can't you realize that when you dull your senses to the killing of one group of people you dull yourselves to the preciousness of all human life? (i'm sorry, i know you want to separate these events, i know you want to say that the man who was murdered in new orleans was none too familiar with the man who was beaten in st. louis, but i cannot allow you to do this, because what happens at the hands of the police to black PEOPLE in new orleans and what happens to black PEOPLE in st. louis is what happens to black PEOPLE all across the country, i dare say there is a connection.) and when you allow one group of men the freedom to kill us as evidence of your own superiority (there's the connection), you're only setting the stage so that these killers will have to widen the game. since if anyone can kill niggers, the only way left to prove yourselves supreme is by killing some other man: illegal mexican immigrants (aliens?), arabs, muslims, southeast asians (any brown man wearing a long beard and turban), native americans (oops, their genocide is already complete!), and eventually, fatefully, YOU." no, i don't expect you in your defense of cowardice to say that because i know the deal. any black or brown man or woman living in the ghetto and dealing every day with racist cops knows the deal. but even knowing it i find that i still have something to learn. i have to sit here while cops in every ghetto across the country beat and murder my people, and what i've learned is that even an educated, intelligent person like you, who, knowing deep down that such flagrant acts of brutality and murder are inherently wrong, nonetheless even you do not have the humanity or decency to snatch the guns and batons from the hands of the police and refuse them the "right" to whip these niggers' heads. i guess if you had been there (especially in new orleans) you'd have got in your licks with the rest. i sit here at my pc and laugh. sure, i do. i laugh because as ellison said, "there is some knowledge that's just too hopeless for tears."
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  Kirk

  November 26, 2024, 10:35 pm

  Kobie, you might want to start reading a bit more closely before you give people shit about what they type. Spend some time thinking about these things, perhaps while looking into a name change.
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  kobie

  November 26, 2024, 10:36 pm

  oh no, not another one! listen, kirk, if all you can manage is a two line response to whatever it was i said that offended you, then maybe it is you who needs to check his reading comprehension skills. besides, neither eauhellzgnaw nor mr. kobe bryant, who i am assuming you referred to when you tried to disrespect my name, needs any defense from you. why don't you try being a lil more specific about what i said that troubles you. otherwise (or better yet), shut the fuck up.
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  Kirk

  November 26, 2024, 10:37 pm

  Ok, I'll be specific. You were bitching and moaning about a comment that you clearly didn't understand. If you HAD understood it, you would have seen that your criticisms of it were off base. Now, the reason that I felt the need to make my comment, besides just for entertainment, was because it's not the first time you've done it. Hope that helps.
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  eauhellzgnaw

  November 26, 2024, 10:38 pm

  kobie, You are obviously very passionate about police brutality (and rightfully so). I have to echo Kirk's sentiments, though. I don't think you read my post carefully; if you did, you didn't understand it. I invite you to re-read it, and hopefully we can have a real discussion about its merits. I respond to arguments, not ad hominem attacks about my youth (I'm 27) and about my defense of cowardice (I don't know where you got this).